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1. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Bob Maths wrote: I suspect that the contract terms as per the EULA make any IP dispute subject to Icelandic law, of which their legal team will be experienced in. However that depends if the higher courts in the EU, or even the icelandic courts...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2015.02.09 21:14:37
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2. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
I doubt I'll be bothered to post tomorrow, so I'll take this opportunity to point out that tomorrow marks the one year anniversary of us first receiving a copyright claim against our logo, originating from CCP. The fallout from this (and others g...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.12.24 17:00:58
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3. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
So is it the lawyers or the dev team causing the delay at this point? As much as I appreciate the work being done behind the scenes, a little communication would be nice.
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.11.24 11:58:22
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4. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
I like the suggestion of watermarking. It seems like a reasonable compromise. My main suggestion: Make a tool for creating logos on the eve website. I can upload my logo into it, and it allows me to select from a small range of EVE-provided conte...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.11.17 17:20:49
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5. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Fairly minor update: I spoke to CCP Falcon at EGX, as he was helping run the Valkyrie demo (looking to be an awesome game btw!). Couldn't talk for all that long, as he was obviously very busy with the hordes of people wanting to play. He express...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.10.23 23:07:53
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6. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
CCP Falcon wrote: I can't speak for CCP legal of course, as they'll have to communicate with you directly. Just to make it clear: CCP legal have not communicated with us directly since this was posted. What do you pay them for? -Ortho
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.06.27 10:07:00
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7. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Now the topic seems to not be sticky anymore. Anyone going try and pretend CCP's plan isn't to hope everyone will forget this, so that they can just push the same crap later, but more quietly? The EULA states that all legal disputes must happen ...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.05.20 10:46:00
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8. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
I don't really understand what CCP legal are trying to do here. We (VOLT) have heard no more than anyone else reading this thread since the last post by Falcon. It's been a month and 6 days, as of this writing. I was informed by legal counsel th...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.04.16 23:23:00
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9. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
It's not too hard to put an interpretation on what's going on here. One of the other things that Bill Winters said in the phone call referred to earlier was that they didn't consider this as an important issue, because this thread was only at 12 ...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.03.01 12:50:00
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10. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Coor's post made me finally get 'round to checking out a couple of other game EULAs myself. As he says, the WoW Eula appears to contain no provision on the IP rights of character names or guild names at all, nor is there (for obvious reasons) any...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.21 12:52:00
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11. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Vera Algaert wrote: Benny Ohu wrote: Ortho Loess wrote: The reasons why that doesn't apply to the VOLT logo are in my original post here . The third point, at least, should apply to any alliance who's logo was submitted under the old sys...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.14 07:09:00
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12. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Bagehi wrote: EULA circa 2006 Obviously, that would be an interesting court case if anyone ever decided to contest that clause. Just ran a quick diff, the only change to current is replacing sublicensable with sub-licensable The reasons ...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.13 22:20:00
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13. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Other people have pointed out several things that didn't occur to me on first read. It's looking more and more like the new license is really just making things far worse than they were without it. The exact opposite of what CCP Falcon claimed th...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.13 19:26:00
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14. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
The Volition Cult has released most versions of our logo under Creative Commons. The only exception so far is the version that was sent to CCP (with a grey background), because the ownership is still under debate and we are willing to talk about t...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.13 19:20:00
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15. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Bagehi wrote: This is IP law. CCP can't use a copyrighted name/image in a product/service they sell to customers. This isn't true in some case (eg parody, news reporting, etc) but it wouldn't stop CCP getting dragged into court proceedings beca...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.13 18:02:00
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16. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Quote: CCPGÇÖs ownership of everything used in the game client is necessary under current intellectual property law Could you expand on this? The argument for pursuing a policy that is so clearly against the interests of your users seems to ...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.13 17:53:00
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17. Sticky:Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submission... - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Reading the license, I was very impressed by how restrictive they have managed to make it and how much it is set up to be almost entirely in CCP's favour. If I make a load of T-Shirts or mouse mats to hand out at a meetup, then CCP decide I've an...
- by Ortho Loess - at 2014.02.13 17:35:00
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